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T.I.H.T.I.M.'s avatar

As a British Christian, I stand full square with British Jews.

The Left has always been anti-Semitic - but they tend to state, “Heaven forbid I am not, I am simply anti-Zionist”.

John Bowman's avatar

Christianity is the Sion (alt spelling Scion meaning “offshoot”, and curiously similar to “Zion”) of Judaism. Zionism = desire to have a Jewish State in the ancestral homeland of the Israeli people, and without whom there would be no Christianity.

One might then say that Anti-Zion = Anti-Sion. Jew-hate is de facto Christian-hate - a hatred of the shared cultural roots of our prosperous, successful, Western, capitalist societies.

T.I.H.T.I.M.'s avatar

So what you're saying is that anti-Zionism means denying the right of the state of Israel to exist.

That seems pretty anti-Semitic to me.

You are dealing in sophistry........and I'm pretty confidant that if I said that the relatively new nations of Pakistan and Bangladesh had no right to exist, then YOU would be very swift to call me racist.

Would you not?

John Bowman's avatar

What on Earth are you talking about? You should read things more carefully.

I was making an observation about the words “Zion” and “Sion”, explaining what each meant, and the connexion between Judaism and Christianity. I made no comment about whether Israel had or had not the right to exist. But to be clear for you…IT DOES.

Had you read and understood what I wrote, you would see I equated anti-Zion with Jew-hate. I could have said “anti-Semitic” instead of Jew-hate, but I have more than just a few words in my lexicon.

I happen to think Jew-hate, or anti-Jewish is a better term as “Semite” describes a number of ancient peoples: Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.

Got it now?

Robert Phillips's avatar

You have the flip side as well with Jacob Rees Mogg (Named after his father's great friend Jacob Rothschild).He is a Zionist,bordering on being an agent for Israel.Talk about Janus.Also Trump who seems to do everything Israel wants.

Robert Phillips's avatar

Interestingly Rees Mogg is now going to debate Tommy Robinson at the Oxford http://Union.As far as I've known him he has consistently attacked Robinson (I’ve no time for Robinson,I consider him an oick).However Robinson is now firmly in the Jewish lobby as is Rees Mogg (And always has been,if you read his father's memoirs, the father used to act as a courier for Golda Meir.)I told Rees Mogg I didn't like paying to subscribe to his Substack when people were commenting who didn't pay.I received a refund from him and he then banned me from commenting for 1000 years.I have all the http://paperwork.Ge subsequently wrote an article citing freedom of speech ,which he now cites for debating http://Robinson.NO

Robert Phillips's avatar

It's not about freedom of speech it's about Rees Mogg's vanity and insatiable lust for publicity.Hes many things but I certainly couldn't call him a hypocrite.

isp001's avatar

Ironically, decades of allowing law breaking creates powerful material should a future reform government want to clean up politics. Great piece.

Gawain Towler's avatar

You make a good point

isp001's avatar

The issue with such systemic malfeasance is the quantity makes it very hard to prosecute. We have seen solutions in other countries (truth and reconciliation style programs):

- make clear that you will prosecute cases and punish severely (given the harms caused jail/bankruptcy should be on the table)

- there is a window for people to make a submission of what they knew and allowed to happen. They need to be detailed. They need to state who else knew. So long as the person was not directly involved in abuse then punishment will be limited to some painful but manageable fine/reduction of pension

- you aren't allowed to talk to the people you name during this amnesty period - to prevent collusion. If you do, you forfeit your access to the amnesty - and the person you contact can report on you (so game theory makes this dangerous)

- this will rapidly give you a huge map of who knew what

- that map will aid the prosecution of the hold outs

- as a side affect 90% of labour party members and many activist civil servants wouldn't be able to talk to each other (outside of monitored work settings) without forfeiting their access to the program which would cripple them

isp001's avatar

Also

1. path to at least some justice for the victims

2. sends a very strong message that this abuse will no longer be tolerated - and should be paired with aggressive forfeiture of citizenship for those involved

3. the proceeds can fund a compensation fund for victims (not a slush fund for some "charity" to play with)

4. reform should make clear that record deletion will be seen as an attempt to hide culpability. Plenty of deletion still ongoing under "standard documentation rules" given the potential for future litigation the only reason to destroy files is to hide crimes

Robert Phillips's avatar

Repeal the public order act ,brought in by Margaret Thatcher ,which basically Criminalises everything anyone says.Perhaps we could return to something called Freedom.

John Bowman's avatar

I can’t wait for the trials.

John Bowman's avatar

Imagine! Culture migrates. Import millions whose “culture” consists of endemic, required hatred of Westernised non-believers with Jews occupying pole position in the hate league, where political corruption is rife, where non-believers don’t qualify as Human, and in any case there is little respect for Human dignity and life, and the result is what the article describes. Shock!

Socialism is the creed of redistribution and rationing consumption, the opposite to the abundance and “excessive consumption” of capitalism. Under Socialism, the whims of the Party apparatchiks decide what the Collective should consume influenced by the limits of what a command economy can produce. Socialists have long hated the Jew who are the hated bourgeoisie, capitalists, wealthy, controllers of banking and finance.

The Greens similarly hate capitalism and abundance. Those at the top deciding what we should all have and rationing consumption - to save the “Earth’s resources”. It is at root Socialism, the Green top coat camouflaging the Red underneath.

The Mammary Murmurer’s Green Party as a Left-wing, Jew-hating Party is not new, they just don’t need to hide it any more since the political landscape, until Reform UK arrived, was painted Planet-saving, consumption throttling, redistribution-overdrive, Socialist, Uniparty Red.

Now mix Jew-hating Socialists, with Jew-hating imported “cultures” and… surprise, surprise!

I think it is Douglas Murray who says that in a society, Jews are like canaries in the coal mine. They are first to feel the fatal effects of the approaching peril, which will eventually engulf all souls unless the warning is heeded.

The Jews today, us tomorrow.

Robert Phillips's avatar

A very fine piece dedicated to the Jews.After the latest incident in Golders Green,NOT a terrorist incident by the way ,a stabbing by a Somali savage who shouldn't have been walking our streets in the first place(In fact he'd stabbed a Somali in the morning and a policeman a few years before.)Sarah Sackman ,the MP for the area said an attack on Jews is an attack on British values, quote .May we look at some facts .Leveson , Hermer, Starmer all Jews who are destroying our right to trial by jury ,a fundamental right dating back to the Magna Carta . So i'd pretty much say a British value.The courts minister who is pushing this legislationtrough ?Step forward the Jewess Sarah Sackman,whose husband is a judge and has made many controversial pro immigrant judgements(Too numerous to mention).I don't think we need lectures from Sackman on British values or getting ducked into their wailing about anti semitism.It is quite obviously resulting in further two tier policing.I shall continue to attend pro Palestine marches and look forward to hearing Charlotte Church giving another beautiful rendition of From the river to the sea .

Cathryn Wilson's avatar

Great, incisive piece again! The enemy within truly is within.

Robert Phillips's avatar

Yes we have a Jewish problem and a Muslim problem.The name Enoch Powell springs to mind.

Jeremy Stewardson's avatar

If the country doesn’t realise that allowing seventh century satanic death cult settlers en masse into a twenty first century Britain is a deadly exercise , then Britain does not deserve to survive .

The invasion must be stopped and reversed now . Wake up , Britons !

Robert Phillips's avatar

I was pleased to read Anne Cryer's name mentioned.Not only did she mention the rape gangs at first but also the inbreeding amongst Pakistani immigrants,for which she was roundly castigated.At the beginning of the year I was in Birmingham,I always stay at the Burlington Hotel (Where Enoch Powell made his wonderful ,prescient speech on immigration,It was called the Midland Hotel then)I went to a performance of the Pantomime a second day running (It was bitterly cold and I had some time to kill,a brilliant pantomime by the way,Robin Hood Biggins et alia ,Matt Slack ,a staple and great talent).This was what was called a relaxed performance .I had no idea what it meant.Basically whilst we watched the performance,there was a further performance by the 'relaxed' audience , mentally defectives of all kinds and their carers ,three quarters of which id say were Pakistanis.A vision of hell worthy of Hieronymus Bosch.

The BNP also first mentioned the rape gangs ,naturally condemned as racist for doing so ,eventually destroyed by Mr Farage(Who takes great delight in this achievement).Great things of the past always live on and people with sense and memory don't forget.I can't remember which great Statesman it was who said ,nations do not die from a loss of battles but a loss of culture.He was certainly right .

Gawain Towler's avatar

I will not deny that Griffin tried

Robert Phillips's avatar

That's typically gracious of you Gawain.All good wishes for today,I'm sure it will be successful and all the hard work rewarded.

Mark Henry's avatar

An excellent article Gawain. It's time to stop tip toeing around this subject. You will be aware of Raja Miah MBE who calls out the Pakistani clans linked to the grooming gangs and Labour MPs who turned a blind eye to it.

Gawain Towler's avatar

Raja is a warrior

Ghcjle's avatar

Investigating anti semitism is GOOD practice. Large numbers of investigations are a GOOD sign. The organisations that are racist are the ones who refuse to investigate it. They will have very low numbers of investigations because they refuse to accept allegations and few people report because there is low confidence anything will be done.

Nicholas Craddy's avatar

My God, this concentrates all the time warning bells that have been quietly ringing off-stage for 20 years into an almighty clang from the roof.

It’s what I have always thought has been going on, unfortunately.

Where we find ourselves today is with a deeply unpopular Labour government with an almost universally despised Prime Minister who seems to know that his government will never get repeated and is determined to set a path for the future in his mould that cannot easily be undone, much like Blair’s destruction of the apparatus of State.

The next GE, whenever it comes, will mark a massive change in British politics. Starmer in the ultimate exercise of cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face is going ever further to make sure that a Reform UK government will be so busy plugging massive holes in the hull of HMS Great Britain to prevent it from sinking that the real change that is desperately needed can’t be achieved.

Just look at the people he has surrounded himself with, all unelected.

McSweeny, Hermer, Mandelson, and the people he sucks up to, Van der Layden, Macron.

When you take the time to pull back a little and take the bigger picture, it becomes clear.

I doubt that this Labour administration will collapse before its mandate expires, a succession of wannabes will dig their nails into the plasterwork at No 10 until the last minute, and who knows what a shambles will be left behind.

Time for the Military and the King to step up? Well, maybe not the King. I wish I felt more comfortable with where his heart is.

Robert Phillips's avatar

I think you're probably deluded if you really think Charles Windsor will “Step up “,for anything ,he's too busy holding Iftars at Windsor castle and looking for his next tax payer funded banquet .

Robert Phillips's avatar

As the Dowager Lady Birdwood said in a Telegraph interview,'The Jews and Muslims will fight for possession of this land'.Wishing you well for tomorrow.I can't like this article, I'm afraid, as it is feeding too much into the current hysteria of 'Anti semitism'.

Sir Walter Pearson's avatar

Beware historical analogies when the historians have changed their minds. Anent British losses at the battle of Jutland -

"Negligent Ammunition Handling: To maximize their rate of fire, British crews in the battlecruiser fleet frequently bypassed safety protocols. They kept flash-tight doors (designed to separate the gun turret from the ammunition magazine) open, and pre-staged large quantities of explosive cordite charges in the handling rooms and turret working chambers."

Ian Watkins's avatar

Well if you design a system that doesn't allow people to maximise their rate of fire without disabling safety features, what do you expect?

Sir Walter Pearson's avatar

Design is always a matter of trade-offs. It's childish to pretend otherwise.

That officers ordered their crews to take such stupid risks should have been a matter for courts-martial.

Ian Watkins's avatar

What a pleasure it is to meet the author of "How to win friends and influence people"....